Evangelicalism may be studied and understood by comparitive studies and looking into counterfeits.

How counterfeit and anti-God idols/organisations are attracting attention and worship to themselves.

Worship God and serve Him alone.

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D.Lim: Attackers come by themselves. They are rather active, looking for victims to devour.

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Dear responder

There are many who would not hold back from deceit.

It is righteousness to warn people of such danger. The decision is still for the informed to make.

Interesting to note that Anglicans and SDAs do not voice any complain or rude remark or judgement.

You really set yourself apart. This is enough to put warning signs against you.

I do not go Catholic-bashing in any way. I am Catholic. There is one Church that is the bride of the Lamb (nothing to do with Madonna)

However, you may be lying and misrepresenting Roman Catholics as Catholics.

Warning people of running into Roman Catholics, or any other groups is not rude religious discrimination. You might not have heard much of religious truth; Indeed any truth if at all. It is a warning.

Those who do not like it can always avoid it. Nobody is forced to stay, to go on, or to accept anything. Very unlike your implication that people have to accept and function according to your etiquette and order of the day. You are no dictator of us. Certainly no leader of us.

Keep your jokes to yourselves and search for the truth.

For your lack of information, or hatred of truth I would like to supply you the following for elucidation:

Just For Catholics

Joe Mizzi was brought up in a Catholic home. He heard the Evangelical message for the first time when he was 14 years old. To the question, 'What must I do to be saved?' the reply came, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.' Evangelicals actually teach that a person is saved by faith alone, works excluded.

To his mind this teaching was clearly wrong and dangerous. Wrong, because St James says that faith without works is dead. And dangerous because it encourages careless living since a person is not saved by works.

He became interested in studying the Bible for himself. To his surprise he found that James' concern is to distinguish between true faith and its counterfeit. 'What does it profit, my brethren, if a man says he has faith but has not works? Can his faith save him?' (James 2:14). Such 'faith' is worthless; it cannot save anyone. True faith is recognized by the fruit it produces.

The central question was this: 'Is a person saved by true faith alone? Or is he saved by faith plus the merit of his own good works?' The answer of the Bible was clear and surprising:

"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works" (Ephesians 2:8-10).

Saved through faith...not of works! It's amazing: the same Bible that emphasize holy living and good works, also states that salvation is not dependent of personal works. The Christian does not depend on his 'goodness' or his efforts, but trusts completely in another person, in the Lord Jesus Christ.

Today Joe is an Evangelical Christian and is sure of heaven. He is concerned for Catholics (and others) whose life is overrun by sin and yet feel that it would be fine at the end.

For more of his story and for answers to questions asked by Catholics in subjects ranging from Mary, the Bible, the mass, the church and contraception and more, visit Joe's web site, Just For Catholics

http://www.justforcatholics.org/

Romans1 v17:

1:17 因為神的義, 正在這福音上顯明出來. 這義是本於信以致於信. 如 (.經上.) 所記, [義人必因信得生.] - 和合本

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

3:22 就是神的義, 因信耶穌基督, 加給一切相信的人, 並沒有分別.

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

By Grace are we believers of Christ saved by faith; not of/by works lest anyone may boast.

We believers have nothing institutional and traditional to boast about.

Do you?

The truth just does not mix well with falsehood.

Rev Dr David Lim

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D.Lim: A doctor of Theology do not know much about Catholicism? A Catholic with Apostolic succession/ordination does not know much about Catholicism? What insult! What blindness!

What idiot! What liar!

[Although the doctrine and system of Apostolic Succession is unscriptural, there are substantial number of churches/denominations having it and sharing it, other than the Roman Catholic Church. All eastern Orthodox churches have that tracable leanage. Old Catholics, Anglicans, The church established by the Apostle Thomas in India, and The Holy Christian Life Church also have their own lists. Not just churches in the eastern empire, but churches left right and centre have that. Roman Catholics simply do not have exclusive rights on this to claim any special authority. I suppose the RCs also prefer a big cover-up to attract worship only to their organisation.]

There was no mentioning of Lutherans or Lutheranism.

There was proof verse of Calvinism (Ephesians 2:8-10) mentioned. The 2 simply are not the same.

It might be said that Roman Catholics do not hold to that. That is why they are not Christians, unscriptural, and above all, condemned in SIN (unsaved).

Who has not read something up? Who has not turned to God Almighty for His Will?

D.Lim: Friend, come to the saving faith of Christ. Do not smart yourselves to eternal damnation!

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D.Lim: You need to be born again to rid of some of your attitude and wrongful accusation.

There is no room for your inflation.

There is always the possibility that you are mentally handicap to behave this way.

No matter which way you are, our prayers go out for you.

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D.Lim: How obvious is that? And to whom? There is sign of a disoriented mind, some twisted thinking.

We see that there are RCs not accepting Calvinism or Lutheranism as to be saved.

From time to time we meet idol worshippers, lovers of traditions and family values, and lovers of work. Christ tells us that whoever wants to follow Him must deny himself, pick up his cross and follow Him.

Well, Christ is not begging for followings. No debating here or there. You either do it by first believing in it and trusting in it, or you do not. Calling people and things names and boasting of some sort of authorities simply is not any option. Much less being viable option.

The Holy Bible of God does not direct people to read up on something. It is the Book of books. It is the standard, the reference point, the Truth, the Light, and the Way.

No council, no institute, no idols/leaders stand beside the Holy Bible of God.

We prove things according/comparing to His Holy Word (the Holy Bible of God).

We preach the Word of God, we sow for the Kingdom. But it is up to the soil/ground to receive it. Some might bear much fruit. Nomatter how, God is in control. And good is His Will.

D.Lim: So, this jane walters wants to approach salvation by things other than faith? And she wants to be her kind of catholic that do not rely on faith alone for salvation? There we have it. Rejecting Scriptures and witness after reading it (as I posted them in reply to her e-mail) in favor of her religion, her faith.

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D.Lim: So sad that Satan is deceiving people. So much to do for the Kingdom of God.

So interesting to see the pattern that the challengers do not tell us what experience and knowledge they have. They want you to imagine that they know more and have the truth. Explanation is not given. How do they know that we did not have courses, and got immersed in cults and counterfeits? How do they know that we were not in other camps before?

D.Lim: Ordination of Sinead O'Conner is a fact. Action of Toronto Catholic priest Ryan, 67, on Feb. 5, 2004 is also a fact of the day. No urban legend here.

The true church of Christ Jesus has the Lord Jesus given power to His disciples to separate themselves from evil and darkness. The Roman Catholic church has to have her members subjecting to the authority of Papal power and council. That explains for the inertia of action to rid herself of discidents.

D.Lim: Heresy by what standard? Note that there is no Bible quotation. The starting point and referencing has not been the Word of God.

There is the assumption(begging questions) that the ROMAN Catholic is true follower of the church of Jesus Christ, or that it is the church of Jesus Christ.

Does it dawn on anyone that Jesus is not Roman and never lived in Rome or Italy?

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D.Lim: Today, there are apostated Evangelical denominations uniting with the RC church and other heretical churches to the extend of separating themselves from Separatists and churches faithful to the Word of God.

When we truly turn to the Evangel (Gospel), which is the Holy Word of God we have true Evangelical.

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