Heresy - 1
Similarity warrants recognition, unity and acceptability?
This is a reply to a Roman Catholic allegation that Catholics have much similarity with Protestants; and ought to be regarded as true Christians.
This email was posted to mcd debate site on 13 April 98.
[This Roman Catholic does not want his words quoted and his name mentioned. I have reworded his email. Please check mcd archives for original detail]
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[MCD: 98040919560015136]D: The God of the Bible requires all His people to be set apart (another term for holy, hagios). He said, " Be holy for I am holy." Saint is the same word as holy. In the letter in the NT we read that all members of local churches are regarded as saints.
RC: "Surely all Christians in any state or walk of life are called to the faithfulness of Christian life and to the perfection of charity." (Lumen Gentium 40 #2). All are called to holiness: "Be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect," St Matt. 5v48 (Catechism of Catholic Church, pp. 542-543.)
D: Here is 5% of the poison. Replying with topics that is off-topic.
Calling to unity mis-matches.
Being perfect verses being set apart.
All Christians are saints, and there is only one class of saints. (This was the topic).
Canonising certain people as saints and believing uncanonised people are not saints is an anti-biblical practice. (That was the topic).
RC: If you do not believe we can learn the Word of God "by reading something else," why are you writing?
D: An incoherent twist here and there. (Just remembering the comment of Till about me.)
Who would relie on devotional books for literal criticism?
Who would read Russian for Japanese?
Who can understand the bible by anti-bible literature?
RC: "Yet even if Revelation is already complete, it has not been made completely explicit; it remains for Christian faith gradually to grasp its full significance over the course of centuries." CCC, p. 28.
D: Commentaries remain commentaries. Commentaries are not scriptures; and do not have the same weight.
Visions requires interpretation from the same Spirit, rather than exposition with another spirit. Parables require exposition of the giver of the parables, not interpretation by some others.
We see another lie here from an authoritative source of a religion. What is revealed is known. What is not revealed is yet to be made known, not just to believers, but to unbelievers also.
What is shown to be antibiblical is antibiblical. It does not take more studies to believe a lie as truth.
Exp.: the word "Trinity"
RC: Dave, I really think the above quotation show that, thanks be to God, you and The Catholic Church are in much more agreement than you think/realise.
D: Attempt and logic failed miserably.
D: It is not similarity that matters. It is the effect and substances of the difference that require fine differentiation. What is brought out to light is revealed in light. The rest is still in the dark.
As those who can see, we do not have biblical christians embracing Mohammad, or Koranic Muslims accepting Jesus the redeemer. As clear as night and day.Similarity do not effect conversion. A complete change (repentance) does.
One soup-spoonful of raw kidney beans contains enough poison to kill a man. Would you like to take in a vegetarian meal that contains one soup-spoonful of such bean?
It is true that 100% of this meal is nutritious. (The beans are also full of goodies). 5% of the meal is the beans with deadly poison. A small amount in weight. Would you like to eat/take this diet/meal?
The truth is that it does not require more poison than this small portion to cause the lethal effect. The other 95% of good stuff cannot save anybody who take in this 5% at the same time.
Be holy. Not just try to be holy in a few % of words and deeds. And only Jesus can cause 100% conversion in a follower. Counterfeits, no matter how realistic they are can not provide this magic touch.
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